Chippenham v Dartford Sat 3 Sep 2022

Man of the Match

Poll ended at Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:56 pm

Joe Young
0
No votes
Maxwell Statham
11
58%
Jordan Wynter
0
No votes
Connor Essam
1
5%
Tom Bonner
2
11%
Luke Allen
2
11%
Keiran Murtagh
0
No votes
Adam Lovatt
0
No votes
Kristian Campbell
3
16%
Dan Roberts
0
No votes
Pierre Fonkeu
0
No votes
Alex Wall (Sub)
0
No votes
Charlie Sheringham (Sub)
0
No votes
Luke Coulson (Sub)
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 19

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Excellent post TauntonDart.
I only watched the highlights and from them it does seem that Dan Roberts was unlucky not to have scored a couple. The pitch looked an awful playing surface but that is no excuse as both teams play on it, although it does look to have played it's part on the penalty. What a soft shout one it was too.
I know that over 10 minutes of highlights the fans who couldn't be there should not be shouting about the lads performance. Yes, we know we have a few problems overall and the squad is lightweight. For me Wall doesn't seem that interested and has always been a poor signing. Okay, he had an injury early on but he just doesn't do it for me. There are others of course so I can't put it all down to him.
Next up Welling and if we lose that one we will never hear the last of it from a certain few.
Unfortunately I can't make it, or should I be saying Fortunately.
Things have got to change and quickly before we get dragged in to a fight to stay up. Will Dowse be given the time?
I think that the Welling game could be a season changer and I also think that the current squad are fighting for more than 3 points on Saturday.
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Not sure that penalty crossed the line, & was it even a penalty??
And was that sand or water coming up off the pitch??
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M1 South
Even there fans behind goal said didn't cross the line we was sat next to there player who collapsed and he went straight on his phone and said to his mate look not over the line and as for the pitch it def was sand the pitch didn't look like it had been watered for a month
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Not to justify the result, but its never a penalty in the first place, their player backs into Jordan and then throws himself to the floor and secondly no way that crosses the line.

Starting to think that the problem isn't us always getting shit refs, it's the fact that there are no good refs in the division altogether!!!!!
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Good post from Taunton Dart . I will probably be told to move on as well ?🤔 but I will make this point , that the team as a whole lack that certain group of players that make up the beating heart of any great team , and we haven’t had that since those famous five of Burns, Harris, Noble , Bradbrook and yes Ryan Hayes . I believe Douse will need to be given time to rebuild the squad and flush out anyone who is not willing or able to give 100% , and maybe bring back Cameron Brodie for a start and give him his chance in the middle ? Can’t do any worse than what we’ve seen so far .
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Criminal penalty award.
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DA Mikey wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:55 pm Criminal penalty award.
Agree! Seen it for the first time just now - horrendous decision. Can’t tell whether the penalty kick crossed the line after Young spilled it. Did the ref get a signal from the Lino on the dead ball line?

Poor challenge by Statham to give away that late late free-kick 😫
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Didn’t think it was a penalty on the day and we were standing down the other end from the so called foul. That video has just reinforced my view! I don’t think VAR would have helped either judging by the incompetence on display in the Premier League this past weekend…
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DA Mikey wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:55 pm Agree! Seen it for the first time just now - horrendous decision. Can’t tell whether the penalty kick crossed the line after Young spilled it. Did the ref get a signal from the Lino on the dead ball line?
I looked over almost immediately r and the linesman was already running back up the pitch flagging furiously for a goal - I have no idea where he started from so don't know how near the goal-line he was....but he should have been standing on the line is he had taken up the correct position.

The ref had already booked the player 'fouled' for the penalty for diving - so he had previous for trying to cheat in the match.
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I’ve managed to zoom in on the penalty and took a screenshot that shows the ball probably did cross the line.
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Wookie wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:16 am I’ve managed to zoom in the on the penalty and took a screenshot that shows the ball probably did cross the line.

Good effort - BUT - viewed from above (important) it may be evident that the ‘whole of the ball did not cross the whole of the line.’ If any part of the line is obscured by the ball (as seen in goal line technology) it ain’t a goal. I wasn’t there but I’m guessing the lino merely speculated it was a goal and sought the attention be directed on him/her.
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Having had a lot of experience over many years as a referee I would say that in that still photo the ball has certainly got nowhere near crossing the line. The whole of the ball has to cross the line and from the angle of the shot there would be a clear large gap between ball and line if it had indeed crossed the line. Next time you are by a football pitch put a ball on the ground and have a little part of the ball still hanging on the line then walk down the field and see how far it looks to be over the line from your new vantage point. Optical illusions spring to mind.
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Taunton Dart wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:21 am Having had a lot of experience over many years as a referee I would say that in that still photo the ball has certainly got nowhere near crossing the line. The whole of the ball has to cross the line and from the angle of the shot there would be a clear large gap between ball and line if it had indeed crossed the line. Next time you are by a football pitch put a ball on the ground and have a little part of the ball still hanging on the line then walk down the field and see how far it looks to be over the line from your new vantage point. Optical illusions spring to mind.
Exactly my point. Same here with refereeing experience. In fact, when I was a referee instructor, I used to roll a length of toilet roll across the floor and placed a football so that an inch of it overlapped the toilet roll. Then invited the students to decide ‘goal’ or ‘no goal’ based on their perspective. And then got them to have a closer look. It’s also my opinion that the ball is definitely NOT across the line in that image.
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Re: Chippenham v Dartford Sat 3 Sep 2022

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To Sleightly Deceptive and Taunton Dart - Spot on!!

I was given similar instruction when taking my referees course ( many decades ago now), but the principles have not changed! Assuming that that photo still has captured the furthest point of the ball crossing the line, then the ball has not wholly crossed the line.

Nevertheless, we still seem to be making it difficult for ourselves in conceding late goals at the end of both halves. However, I have to say that games seem to be getting longer and longer at all levels, with added times often reaching 9 minutes nowadays. Are tired legs and loss of concentration a reason for conceding late goals, and not just the Darts.

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Re: Chippenham v Dartford Sat 3 Sep 2022

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A lot of people don't fully understand what being fully over the line means. The ball could be so far over that if viewing from the side there is actually grass showing between the ball and the outside of the line but technically it still doesn't count as having crosed unless the whole circumference is fully over (as you would see if viewing from directly above). The ball is clearly NOT over the line in the photo but it could have been shortly after or before so it doesn't really prove anything either way. Personally I don't think it should have mattered because it wasn't a foul in the first place.
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