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Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 3:06 pm
by Undercover Elephant
SKennedyDFC wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 12:45 pm
Top Cat wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 12:41 pm SKennedyDFC wrote: ↑

I know we need to do things in a responsible way and a way that doesn't jeopardise the future of Dartford FC. But when I see other clubs who have been at - or around - our level (Bromley, Maidstone United both in the National League and the likes of Sutton United who have managed to get to League Two and establish themselves this season as well as Forest Green Rovers who will be playing League One football next season) then I think we do need to be more brave when it comes to change at the club and not just do things in a certain way because that's how we've always done them. Progress is a risk, but for me, a risk worth taking.

SK this was the point I was making , those clubs you have mentioned are all owned or run by rich businessmen , with Forest Green owned by a man who has over a £100 million fortune ? And it’s no coincidence that the two teams playing for a playoff place have both got wealthy financial backing ?
Then maybe that's the next step we should be looking at? This board have done a great job getting us to this point, but maybe we need fresh investment from someone with more financial muscle to come in now to take Dartford forward.
If someone comes in with more money, they will want to have a bigger say in the club, and my understanding is that when Dartford was brought back to life after we lost the ground that that wasn’t possible. No one person can own the club, so I think that you are stuck with the current setup and for me that works.
The board have done an excellent job getting us to where we are the year fleetwood got promoted to the football league they lost £2.9 million. And I don’t know if anyone who has that £2.9 million in their back pocket!

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:15 pm
by Undercover Elephant
I know a lot has been said about Steve King but looking at his stats he does have a very healthy 52.5% win rate across the league games for this season.

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:46 pm
by M1 South
Jagger & Richards maybe??

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 5:35 pm
by SKennedyDFC
Undercover Elephant wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 4:15 pm I know a lot has been said about Steve King but looking at his stats he does have a very healthy 52.5% win rate across the league games for this season.
Shame that win rate goes out the window when we get into the play-offs

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:13 pm
by rambo
Someone asked if I was a new young fan , sadly not I am 67 and been a staunch fan of the club since about 1977 and totally in love with the club
I am very conservative with a small c and not advocating reckless spending at all
I am asking the club to create a situation that makes more money so the club can have a real stab at making the national and staying there
Tbh no club can sustain national league without being full time imo
Every avenue to make the club more money should be explored
As far as I can see the board are becoming more commercially minded and I believe they must continue this path with the aim of promotion and full time manager and players

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:26 pm
by Tony H
We can go up as a part-time club but would need to implement a very different business model to operate at National League level (I.e. full-time).

So far as attendances are concerned, we already attract bigger crowds than many at National League level and that certainly isn’t an issue.

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:49 pm
by Sleightly Deceptive
Can I just say I don’t know that the answer is?

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 10:53 pm
by DFCTALK
SKennedyDFC wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 5:35 pm
Undercover Elephant wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 4:15 pm I know a lot has been said about Steve King but looking at his stats he does have a very healthy 52.5% win rate across the league games for this season.
Shame that win rate goes out the window when we get into the play-offs
63% if you include all ties. Mr Kennedy please look before you leap. Im starting to think that you are a plant friendly with people who ..... well are out to simply discredit the guy some from within the confines. But of course you will deny that and come up with its only MO. There are a few about who from day one have been anti Steve King. Again at high levels. Madness. And in truth its sickening. Hateful in truth really horrible. You said you dont like him. Do you know him ? The bloke guarantees play offs. I cant think of anyone who can say that. And before you go on about playoff records most of those teams had no damn right to even being close to a play off position. As for an earlier knock from you, goodness knows there are so many, footballing espionage i call it, what was your stance on academy players moving on without Steve king using/noticing. Whatever the term was im intrigued as to who you meant. Please the floor is all yours.
P.s. BAWArmy has made some very good points over the months. If anyone truthfully feels he is out to discredit steve king and/or the club then follow Mr Kennedy and the people he speaks for and on behalf. And before anyone says anything its IMO.

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:11 pm
by rambo
Agree with DFCTALK 100%
We cannot get a better manager than Steve King stick with him , no other manager could have done what he has done in the last three seasons, we have challenged until the last game with Steve

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:35 pm
by DFCTALK
rambo wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:11 pm Agree with DFCTALK 100%
We cannot get a better manager than Steve King stick with him , no other manager could have done what he has done in the last three seasons, we have challenged until the last game with Steve
You see what you are doing there Rambo is talking fact. Fact cannot be denied. People will go on about player numbers. For goodness sake 5 left backs who were injured or had to be replaced. Other injuries. Some youth team used in games.
Marc white gets praise for keeping the faith. He sarted the season with 28 players. Not fringe players but players on a massive whack he has a huge source of funds. Now 6 get injured and he still has two teams. We lose 6 because of our correct budget we cant fill the bench. Its horses for courses. And dont say use the academy they are miles of it totally miles.The club sold 3 players including our best player. But thats ok we have some more money. Brilliant. Crazy that one for me. Top at Christmas i know we will sell our best player. Hidden agendas all over the place at DFc. Of course thats only MO it doesnt make it correct.

Also in truth my comment on the academy being miles of it isnt totally fair. What i mean by that is every team in our league do not use academy players. Maybe the odd one or two players. The reason being is this league is practically (certainly the top 1/4 or 3rd) becoming an off shoot of the national premier. You couldnt thrust kids into teams in this league. They would be out of their depth

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 10:06 am
by KingKong
rambo wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:11 pm Agree with DFCTALK 100%
We cannot get a better manager than Steve King stick with him , no other manager could have done what he has done in the last three seasons, we have challenged until the last game with Steve
What he said.

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 10:11 am
by Park Life
KingKong wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 10:06 am
rambo wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:11 pm Agree with DFCTALK 100%
We cannot get a better manager than Steve King stick with him , no other manager could have done what he has done in the last three seasons, we have challenged until the last game with Steve
What he said.
Agree 100% with you guys.

Steve's record since he's been here is very good and he deserves more respect from some and our backing.
He has brought quality players to the club and exceeded expectations so I'm really looking forward to seeing what squad he assembles next season.
COYD

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 12:30 pm
by Silverado
M1 South wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 4:46 pm Jagger & Richards maybe??
These names come up EVERY time this question comes up - and we're STILL waiting!

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 1:02 pm
by BRASSNECK
Silverado wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 12:30 pm
M1 South wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 4:46 pm Jagger & Richards maybe??
These names come up EVERY time this question comes up - and we're STILL waiting!
You Can't Always Get What You Want.😄

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 2:11 pm
by Pedro
If you start me up - I will be a fool to cry

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 4:30 pm
by M1 South
Followed by the same corny song title quotes!!
I really can’t get no satisfaction!!

Re: Should we go full time if the finances allow?

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:58 am
by Babylon
Come on lads and lasses
"It's all over now"