Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

Man of the Match

Poll ended at Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:16 pm

Jacob Marsden
21
60%
Sam Odaudu
0
No votes
Samir Carruthers
5
14%
Josh Hill
0
No votes
Callum Jones
4
11%
Denzelle Olopade
0
No votes
Samuel Okoye
0
No votes
Luther Williams
0
No votes
Eddie Dsane
0
No votes
Jeremiah Pinder
0
No votes
Mert Apat
0
No votes
Tyler Christian-Law (Sub)
0
No votes
Duane Ofori-Acheampong (Sub)
0
No votes
Ben Allen (Sub)
5
14%
 
Total votes: 35

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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Paulcanary wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:17 pm
Park Life wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:11 pm FT 1-2.

Oh dear, I'll wait before I post....

Waiting won’t change a damn thing PL

That was truly awful. They could have had 6 !!!

They hadn’t even won a game - we need their left winger. now !!!
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Sleightly Deceptive wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:43 pm Just to be clear - DOA was deffo red carded.
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The 5th Searcher wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:34 pm
rick wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:48 pm
The 5th Searcher wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:07 pm Not sure what for but Duanne Ofori Acheampong was given a red card at the end of the game according to the commentary.
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/matc ... sea/501427 says:

90+7'Valckx Fernandes sent off
Rick, I heard the sending off for B & P near the end but as the referee blew for fulltime I’m certain Wes Bass said that Duane was given a red card as well.
Sent off for telling the ref he was a useless twat , which was the truth .
There was an incident where we were awarded us a free . One of our player retrieved the ball and kicked it back to the correct position for the free kick to be taken . Our player picked the ball up and placed it down preparing to take the free kick and then the ref runs over and gives handball !!!! You couldn’t make that up
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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And at half time, I thought he was having a decent game! Totally lost control after the ‘penalty’ - he knows it. (So did I to be fair - sorry stewards! 😂) You could see it in his body language for the remainder. Even to ‘rewarding’ Darts with 50/50’s.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Pennock getting away with some outrageous decisions this season.
Dropping Olly last week and changing a winning formation is very questionable.
Duane is not the answer to whatever the question is.
Samir is never a winger, he needs to be played through the middle.
We are an average team in this league, which says a lot.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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And just to add, without a groundsman in place that pitch lasts another 6-8 weeks maximum.
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Kermo18 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:14 pm And just to add, without a groundsman in place that pitch lasts another 6-8 weeks maximum.
I did think the pitch is looking worse for wear.

Also so much for the brand new food stands, none of which are ever open. I've not seen the pizza place open once.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Brown grass all over the pitch, and that’s with good weather over the last few weeks.
Without a groundsman that pitch won’t last the winter.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Poor result against a team who hadn't won a game, can't blame the referee for the result.

We shouldn't be relying on one ref's decision to get back into the game, a poor performance. Hopefully it is one bad game rather than rhe start of the dross we suffered last season.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Down to the girls tomorrow to bring a bit of pride back to the club, seeing as the men can't. Time the board woke up and got in a groundsman. How embarrassing, I remember that pitch being one of the best around. It'll be like a park pitch soon.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Not good enough today and relying upon the youngsters, promising as they undoubtedly are, to mature quick enough to launch a challenge for whatever we’ve set out to achieve this season. That, clearly in many an opinion, is poor management and whilst Ady is to be applauded for giving the youngsters a crack at it, we need some more experience in the team.

Not calling out any individual players on here, the result today is a collective lack of desire to win a game against a team at the bottom. Doesn’t need me to point out that, given the results elsewhere today, a win would have moved us into second position. Alas, we’ve lost again to a team looking likely to be the division whipping boys, no disrespect to B&P.

To the referee, my god he was the worst I’ve seen for a long time. Enough said!

Love the work rate of Callum Jones, the industry of Samir and Jacob’s ability as a shot-stopper. Close for me between those three for MoM but Jacob gets my vote.

We need to improve (stating the obvious). Ben Allen has to start (for Olipade) and Carruthers must play centrally. Back to a back 4, and play with some width (if only we had wide players).
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Tony H wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:02 pm Not good enough today and relying upon the youngsters, promising as they undoubtedly are, to mature quick enough to launch a challenge for whatever we’ve set out to achieve this season. That, clearly in many an opinion, is poor management and whilst Ady is to be applauded for giving the youngsters a crack at it, we need some more experience in the team.

Not calling out any individual players on here, the result today is a collective lack of desire to win a game against a team at the bottom. Doesn’t need me to point out that, given the results elsewhere today, a win would have moved us into second position. Alas, we’ve lost again to a team looking likely to be the division whipping boys, no disrespect to B&P.

To the referee, my god he was the worst I’ve seen for a long time. Enough said!

Love the work rate of Callum Jones, the industry of Samir and Jacob’s ability as a shot-stopper. Close for me between those three for MoM but Jacob gets my vote.

We need to improve (stating the obvious). Ben Allen has to start (for Olipade) and Carruthers must play centrally. Back to a back 4, and play with some width (if only we had wide players).
Absolutely agree with all of the above.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Sleightly Deceptive wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:40 pm Well then? A shit referee doesn’t take away from an absolutely shit Dartford performance. Jacob MOTM for me. No exaggeration, it could’ve been six had it not been for him. Now we have DOA out for three games. What a complete tool losing his discipline to a referee that was an oxygen thief. He lost control of that game and he knew it. I’m afraid I’ve seen too much now to know that we’re an absolute shambles with zip to offer. And it’s October very soon. Tick tock! Bowers and f*cking Pitsea. For f*cking f*cks sake!!
What states he is out for 3 games ?
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Only one game ban, as not aggression But...
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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If he pushed a referee then he could get 3 possibly more.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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A concerning poor performance from us today.
Defensively we looked disorganized and vulnerable to the counter attack all game and we gave away possession far too easily with sloppy misplaced passes all over the pitch, then had to work bloody hard to try and get the ball back.
Everyone should be able to run for the 90 minutes so we need to get a few in who can pass as well, a bit more pace wouldn't go amiss either.

I know a win today would have put us second but we didn't and i'm not really surprised at our inconsistency as i've said all along that i felt the squad was light in certain areas, imo today just highlighted that even more.
We're two months into the season and the time i thought Ady would need to do a bit of wheeling and dealing if we are to mount a serious challenge at the top of the table, which should be a minimum for us at this level.

As for the ref, this is the third poor one we've had this season.
He wasn't too bad first half but after he waved away one of the most cleat cut penalties i've ever seen early in the second half, he just got worse.

MOTM, Callum put in a decent performance again, Samir tried to make things happen but for me it can only be Jacob as he kept the score down with several good one on one saves.

I just feel there are a few things both on and off the pitch that need sorting atm so time for the appropriate people to step up and take responsibility.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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I felt embarrassed watching us get done 1 nil by Potters Bar but bloody Bowers & Pitsea how far are we going to fall. Without Olly Box to give the attack width and flair we looked painfully average and midfield not any better. But though we were shite for 80 minutes we could have got something out of the game Eddie's miss and of course the penalty. I don't expect much from Referee's at non-league level most are complete crap and its a pleasant surprise when you get a competent one, I'm glad Samir was taken off he was close to being sent off after the penalty decision and you could have boiled a kettle on his head when he sat on he bench. I didn't realise Duane was red carded that was a waste after returning from injury. We are where we are without a bigger budget to sign better players we can only hope Ade and Roland can get some good performances out of average footballers.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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The team has been doing really well considering it’s a completely new side, but the cracks appeared at Dover, and for me it’s about freshening the team up. The same back 4 start every week, with pinder and olopade, who both have been excellent but one is 18 and one who correct me if I am wrong was playing a league below last season. Sometimes players need a rest from a very physical and competitive league. Subs need to be brought on sooner, 4-0 down at Dover before a change? 2-0 down yesterday at half time still no change till the 65th minute? Even they made 3 subs before we did? You need to keep the starting 11 on their toes and keep the subs fresh otherwise they won’t be match fit, or sharp enough when they come on, if ady doesn’t think they are good enough then why sign them? Only one defender on the bench today, a 18 year old ?
Players knowing they are going to start every week get complacent, that’s a fact.
Ben Allen needs to start, came on against Marlow, scored 2, came on at Dover, looked a threat, nearly scored, and then yesterday came on and changed the game, the free kick just went over, had the shot which the keeper parried for Callum to score and overall looked up for it and passionate to get back in the game, love his attitude. He has scored nearly 30 goals the last few seasons in this league and the national league south.
Apat don’t do it for me, or a back 5?
Samir, box, Allen,and jones needs to be tried??
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Poor display first half but second I thought we showed a bit better desire in second half but have to agree we give the ball away to easily at times ,

The crowd were also flat first half and was told so by a very loud gentleman, which i understand but I feel the players need to give the crowd something to shout about and the second half they did this,

I know I’m going to be in the minority here the said person above having a go at the crowd, also shouted at Eddie even though he didn’t know his name just called him number 21, I don’t think Eddie was to pleased by what was said and I know this man has links with the club by his son playing for us but does he have to be so loud, As I say I’m going to get crucified for it but I find it embarrassing to stand around him shouting like he does I’m sure it does not help the players I’m now having second thoughts attending games because of this.
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Re: Dartford v Bowers & Pitsea Sat 21 Sep 2024

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Darts 34 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:10 am The team has been doing really well considering it’s a completely new side, but the cracks appeared at Dover, and for me it’s about freshening the team up. The same back 4 start every week, with pinder and olopade, who both have been excellent but one is 18 and one who correct me if I am wrong was playing a league below last season. Sometimes players need a rest from a very physical and competitive league. Subs need to be brought on sooner, 4-0 down at Dover before a change? 2-0 down yesterday at half time still no change till the 65th minute? Even they made 3 subs before we did? You need to keep the starting 11 on their toes and keep the subs fresh otherwise they won’t be match fit, or sharp enough when they come on, if ady doesn’t think they are good enough then why sign them? Only one defender on the bench today, a 18 year old ?
Players knowing they are going to start every week get complacent, that’s a fact.
Ben Allen needs to start, came on against Marlow, scored 2, came on at Dover, looked a threat, nearly scored, and then yesterday came on and changed the game, the free kick just went over, had the shot which the keeper parried for Callum to score and overall looked up for it and passionate to get back in the game, love his attitude. He has scored nearly 30 goals the last few seasons in this league and the national league south.
Apat don’t do it for me, or a back 5?
Samir, box, Allen,and jones needs to be tried??


If someone is not playing well then it would be right to take him off if we have options .
However, most successful teams are built on the foundation of the same back 5 to create the understanding and consistency.
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