Pure DFC Archive

marmite wrote:Last year the team scored comfortably more goals than any other in the league and no team won more games or got more points than Dartford, only a fix from Thurrock stopped them going up. Last year was to all purpose a league winning side.
If anybody doesn't like what it is this year, ask again those who thought last year was so bad it had to be changed why they did it, because it is down to them.
Well done, team ruined for the forseeable.

Bang on.

To suggest it was the fault of those who wanted a change is laughable, surely the reason for this years poor show is down to the decision makers responsible for appointing current coaches?

We had a wonderful season last season despite amazingly many supporters not being onside and constantly criticising. In fact in the history of the club we have only spent 6 seasons in the top flight of non league and under Tony we had three. Through such a successful period I’m not sure how many people truly appreciated what was being achieved before our very eyes. If you did openly, you were in the rose tinted glasses brigade.

I suspect if the noise coming from supporters was a different tone then Tony would have kept going. I just think he may have felt unappreciated and thought ‘what’s the point?’

Now I don’t like the phrase if it ain’t broke don’t fix it because you have to be looking to constantly improve. But it certainly wasn’t broke and we didn’t just fix it we did an Edwin Collins and ripped it up and started again.

We didn’t just lose a successful manager, we lost our talisman in Hayes, and other long servers like Harris, players who would always give the heart and soul because they were part of Dartford FC. Most of these players we have now are not part of the club in the same way as those guys. We have had a revolution when we needed evolution.

I’m not sure if Tony would have any of it but my solution is to return to Plan B and let these joint managers go before they damage the club and their careers any further.

It is not just the results it is the player recruitment, the apparent lack of tactics and team structure and most of all the lack of heart.

It’s time for courage, it’s time for Plan B.

Tony Burman's decision to step down was the right one promoted or not last season. The style of football under him would never be good enough to consolidate our position in the National League.
The style of football has changed this season and it's refreshing to see us trying to keep the ball on the deck as opposed to hoofing it down the channels at every opportunity.

Unfortunately, at this moment in time, we don't seem to have anyone at the helm who can put the round pegs in the round holes and slot the square ones in the square holes.
Until that happens I fear we could find ourselves embroiled in one almighty relegation scrap before we finally get it right.

El Kebabas said

To suggest it was the fault of those who wanted a change is laughable, surely the reason for this years poor show is down to the decision makers responsible for appointing current coaches?

Greg from so far away but so near to the truth I wholeheartedly agree with you as along with many of the fans I felt it was time for Tony to call a halt to the management side but stay with the board and help guide them to a new manager.
Instead of a completely new manager being appointed with no previous attachments to Dartford we get not one but two joint old players who from recent history brought their own style of players and tactics and this is the result so far.
The board appointed them for whatever reasons and the fans are left to suffer the current performances and results.

Groomy wrote:No point moaning people. The change from TB was what most of you wanted remember?
Time to support the club, managers and players and get back to winning ways.
These are not bad players. A bit of luck and confidence and I've no doubt will we be back on the top half and challenging for the playoffs again.

Don’t talk such crap Groomy.

Yes people wanted change but also we wanted somebody with no DFC links or yes men, unfortunately the board have gone for the easy option of people they know with DFC links being former players but unfortunately are also clueless clowns.
They screwed up with their signings and let the better players go and kept the crap ones apart from Ben and now they are panicking by signing a load of loan players to which some of them are no good either.

The way things are going it’s not going to turn around and improve because most of the players don’t have any fight or spirit in them, they have no interest in playing for DFC at all most of them don’t seem to give a toss. If they did then we wouldn’t be getting this kind of crap played week in week out.

These players should have come out fighting with confidence right from the start, it shows how bad things have got when the club captain has to apologise to the fans for the teams performance.

It doesn’t help when you have a team on the pitch playing out of position with no formation what so ever and players all over the place. Ba spent most of his game out on the right instead of supporting Sheringham, Charlie was winning most of his headers & flick ons with nobody to support him or pick them up. We had a left winger who seemed to scared to take anyone on or cross a ball he would play it back and if he did take a player on he’d lose the ball.

We’ve got a midfielder playing right back looking like a fish out of water.

I actually stood by our dug out for a few minutes yesterday to see what Coyle said to the players and for most of that time he just had his hand on his chin or over his mouth saying nothing.
Anything he did shout the players seemed to ignore anyway.

It’s one complete mess at the moment and changes have to be made.

Ajaxman DFC wrote:Tony Burman's decision to step down was the right one promoted or not last season. The style of football under him would never be good enough to consolidate our position in the National League.
The style of football has changed this season and it's refreshing to see us trying to keep the ball on the deck as opposed to hoofing it down the channels at every opportunity.

Unfortunately, at this moment in time, we don't seem to have anyone at the helm who can put the round pegs in the round holes and slot the square ones in the square holes.
Until that happens I fear we could find ourselves embroiled in one almighty relegation scrap before we finally get it right.

I may be in the minority here, but I'd rather see my team chasing the title and reaching the first / second round proper of the FA cup than play "refreshing, on the deck" football which sees us battling relegation and struggling to beat Sussex division two sides.
I gave up on the game about 60 minutes in yesterday and so did several others. Wouldn't mind hearing a match review from a neutral to see whether Oxford were good or we were crap. Fair play to T Bon for his representation after the game on the replacement coach.

I didn't go to the game yesterday, so can't comment. But,
My mate got it right Spike about 'being a second half of the second half team' at least Bradder's got his goal.
You can put yesterdays performance down to Coyle or you can if you want to be bitchy, but there were 14 players used.
I don't go to all home and away games, I wish I could, but I only go to home games almost every other Saturday. So, considering, I only see half the crap that is being dished out at this time.
Tom Bonner should be doing a whole lot more apologising.
To blame the people who wanted Tony out is stupid. I am an ardent TB admirer and supporter but even I could see there was a change needed. Just a little disappointed at the choice to take over.
To toy with the name of Kinnear is a no no. He would not come to Dartford, although he did have a crack at Margate.
Having Ryan Hayes back is also a no from me. Although even a Hayes doing a bit part would bolster this sad bunch.
So, Oxford City go through, which free's up another weekend for me and my next home game could be Torquay United. who are having an equally hard time at finding the back of the net.
We live in hope.

As regards Tony Burman, we may yet be seeing him as the Messiah emerging from the tunnel. I just hope it will not be left too late for even him to rescue what is fast becoming a joke.
Until then the club have my full support even though it often is from afar.
And Ronnie Vint should be back alongside Bonner. That's the only advice I can give at this time even though it probably isn't enough.

I suspect that we are the most successful Club in the County, insomuch that the whole enterprise is fully funded by the Administration and their Management, and without the admitted Loans and debts hanging over other Clubs.

I accept that people rightly wish for more and better, but the journey from the wilderness up to Tony resigning has been a huge achievement, on and off the Pitch, and I am surprised that united "Dartfordism" has become so distasteful, and that unknown, outsiders, would be preferable to anyone known by our Club.

Maybe some will walk away during these testing of times, but unlike the "wiilderness' years, when even down the road was too far to bother, hopefully our Board have earnt the trust and confidence of a significant number, in order to rectify our current malaise. Elliot and Lee are Darts through and through, thats what "Dartfordism " is, and that's what our Board is. They must be hurting too.