Change of admission policy for supporters 13 -17yrs old

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BRASSNECK wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:20 pm
Sleightly Deceptive wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:18 pm Why respond to the 🛎️ end? Just ignore IT. IT only mentioned the lack of atmosphere at the Concord game because one or two mentioned it in these pages. I’m very surprised IT is still allowed to comment in here. It’s time IT was kicked out! IT does not watch DFC. IT has made that clear. Nowt but a piece of trolling 💩 on the bottom of ya shoe! No constructive contribution to the forum whatsoever. Why not make it a rule to just ignore IT? And again when IT pops up with another identity. IT’s style of writing is sooo easy to identify. I know I’ve mentioned IT again here - but only in the hope that IT dies in this forum. #IT OUT! 😃
I was bored.😂


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BRASSNECK wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:52 pm
BAWArmy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:32 pm
BRASSNECK wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:03 pm
Not really.

UPTHEDARTS

Did you see the atmosphere, or lack of at the Concord game?? Clearly not.
As I was at the game unlike you I thought the atmosphere was fine no annoying banging drum.

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I’ve just seen a posting on Twitter from Tom Bonner asking for any fans aged 13-17yrs that have been affected by this new policy to attend a meeting at the club tonight at 7:30pm to discuss the situation.
The meeting will be with Tom Bonner, Dowse & some club officials as they would like to get the issue’s sorting and to get the younger fans back on the terraces.

Hopefully a few will attend and the situation can get sorted.

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Their numbers & enthusiasm were sorely missed Saturday that’s for sure!!
Never seen so few Darts fans (whatever their age, shape. or gender) at Chelmo away????
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Strange it is after our next home game
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Mark Sweet wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:32 pm
Very good move by Tom and dowse , I hope the young fans respond to this and turn up with their 🥁
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JCJ wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:39 pm Strange it is after our next home game
Can only assume its due to Charlton being away and Arsenal not playing as that's where I've heard the youngsters go, so the club want to wait and see the true impact the restrictions are having when both of those clubs aren't at home.

I just hope it's not too late by then, but I agree this is a good move by Dowse and Tom along with whoever else is involved, I just feel this open conversation should've been done before enforcing such restrictions. Let's hope some of the youth actually turn up as we need them and the atmosphere they generate!
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Maidstone United chief executive disgusted by supporter behaviour against Dorking Wanderers which lands National League side with an FA fine
By: KentOnline reporter multimediadesk@thekmgroup.co.uk
Published: 05:00, 07 December 2022

A section of Maidstone United supporters who took part in 'vile chanting' has led to the club being fined by the Football Association.

The FA's regulatory commission ordered the club to pay £2,500 plus costs after fans 'participated in misogynistic abuse' with chants of 'who brought the dog out? Who's the slapper in grey? She's got chlamydia' which were aimed at a female visiting supporter.

Maidstone United have been hit with a £2,500 fine from the FA following supporter chanting
Maidstone United have been hit with a £2,500 fine from the FA following supporter chanting
Maidstone were playing Dorking Wanderers in a midweek National League game at the Gallagher Stadium on August 16, a match watched by close to 2,500 spectators. The chant was filmed and subsequently posted on Twitter.

According to documents released by the FA, Maidstone were charged with failing to ensure that its spectators, and all persons purporting to be its supporters or followers, conducted themselves in an orderly fashion and failed to ensure those persons did not use words or otherwise behave in an improper and/or offensive and/or abusive or insult in manner with either express or implied reference to gender.

The charge alleged that "a not insignificant group of Maidstone United's supporters participated in misogynistic abuse." The Stones accepted liability at the first opportunity and the club's chief executive Bill Williams wrote to the FA expressing his disgust at the actions of a few.

The FA had written to Maidstone and requested further information, such as details of the club's preparations for the match, including measures to present misconduct from spectators.

Mr Williams replied that he had been "shocked and appalled" after seeing the video clip posted on Twitter and was "disgusted by the language that was used."

In his letter to the FA, he said: "As a father and grandfather, it sickens me that this generation has such a flippant attitude towards right and wrong."


Talking about the day of the game, he said there was "generally good-natured rivalry" between the opposition fans, adding: "Some verbal warnings were given by SIA [Security Industry Authority] stewards to those who overstepped the mark when a goal went in or who tried to encroach on the segregation line."

He said further warnings were given when "that vile chanting began." As it involved 'several individuals', stewards spoke to the group as a whole.

Maidstone later took action, using CCTV and photographic evidence to identify those responsible and warning them about their future conduct. They would have to join the youth membership scheme. All under-16s should have an adult supervisor or be a youth season ticket holder to attend games.

Mr Williams added: "A tiny minority are spoiling it for the vast majority and we will do everything we can to root out that tiny minority and continue to be a place where everyone is welcome."

Mr Williams added that the chant on the evening was "disgusting and totally out of order." He added: "I take no comfort from the assertion that it's a national problem, it's a problem that happened at my stadium and I will continue to do all I can, with the support of my matchday team, to promote high standards of behaviour and respect, and will take appropriate action against anyone prepared to go against that."

Following the incident, several young supporters were visited by a Police Community Liaison Officer.

The FA commission stated that: "There was no direct evidence of the precise numbers involved, or of the duration of the chanting."

They said: "We accept Mr Williams' assertion that Maidstone United reacted speedily and appropriately by ensuring that stewards addressed the offenders in order to quell the chanting. We also accept Mr Williams' outrage to be genuine, and note the positive steps that have been taken by Maidstone United to try to identify those responsible, and to prevent repetition.

"We also believe that Maidstone United is not a club that would encourage or tolerate such behaviour, and that it has reacted properly and appropriately."

The FA did, however, say that: "Perhaps the most potentially significant document that we have not seen is any specific pre-match risk assessment carried out by Maidstone United's safety officer.

"Such an assessment is required by the Green Guide which states that a detailed risk assessment should be undertaken for each event before determining the final number, location and duties of all safety staff, including stewards."

In conclusion, the commission accepted that Maidstone United had no advance notice of the abusive language and took steps to stop the chanting, reacted promptly and responsibly and have taken steps to ensure it didn't happen again.

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Maidstone United chief executive disgusted by supporter behaviour against Dorking Wanderers which lands National League side with an FA fine
By: KentOnline reporter multimediadesk@thekmgroup.co.uk
Published: 05:00, 07 December 2022

A section of Maidstone United supporters who took part in 'vile chanting' has led to the club being fined by the Football Association.

The FA's regulatory commission ordered the club to pay £2,500 plus costs after fans 'participated in misogynistic abuse' with chants of 'who brought the dog out? Who's the slapper in grey? She's got chlamydia' which were aimed at a female visiting supporter.

Maidstone United have been hit with a £2,500 fine from the FA following supporter chanting
Maidstone United have been hit with a £2,500 fine from the FA following supporter chanting
Maidstone were playing Dorking Wanderers in a midweek National League game at the Gallagher Stadium on August 16, a match watched by close to 2,500 spectators. The chant was filmed and subsequently posted on Twitter.

According to documents released by the FA, Maidstone were charged with failing to ensure that its spectators, and all persons purporting to be its supporters or followers, conducted themselves in an orderly fashion and failed to ensure those persons did not use words or otherwise behave in an improper and/or offensive and/or abusive or insult in manner with either express or implied reference to gender.

The charge alleged that "a not insignificant group of Maidstone United's supporters participated in misogynistic abuse." The Stones accepted liability at the first opportunity and the club's chief executive Bill Williams wrote to the FA expressing his disgust at the actions of a few.

The FA had written to Maidstone and requested further information, such as details of the club's preparations for the match, including measures to present misconduct from spectators.

Mr Williams replied that he had been "shocked and appalled" after seeing the video clip posted on Twitter and was "disgusted by the language that was used."

In his letter to the FA, he said: "As a father and grandfather, it sickens me that this generation has such a flippant attitude towards right and wrong."


Talking about the day of the game, he said there was "generally good-natured rivalry" between the opposition fans, adding: "Some verbal warnings were given by SIA [Security Industry Authority] stewards to those who overstepped the mark when a goal went in or who tried to encroach on the segregation line."

He said further warnings were given when "that vile chanting began." As it involved 'several individuals', stewards spoke to the group as a whole.

Maidstone later took action, using CCTV and photographic evidence to identify those responsible and warning them about their future conduct. They would have to join the youth membership scheme. All under-16s should have an adult supervisor or be a youth season ticket holder to attend games.

Mr Williams added: "A tiny minority are spoiling it for the vast majority and we will do everything we can to root out that tiny minority and continue to be a place where everyone is welcome."

Mr Williams added that the chant on the evening was "disgusting and totally out of order." He added: "I take no comfort from the assertion that it's a national problem, it's a problem that happened at my stadium and I will continue to do all I can, with the support of my matchday team, to promote high standards of behaviour and respect, and will take appropriate action against anyone prepared to go against that."

Following the incident, several young supporters were visited by a Police Community Liaison Officer.

The FA commission stated that: "There was no direct evidence of the precise numbers involved, or of the duration of the chanting."

They said: "We accept Mr Williams' assertion that Maidstone United reacted speedily and appropriately by ensuring that stewards addressed the offenders in order to quell the chanting. We also accept Mr Williams' outrage to be genuine, and note the positive steps that have been taken by Maidstone United to try to identify those responsible, and to prevent repetition.

"We also believe that Maidstone United is not a club that would encourage or tolerate such behaviour, and that it has reacted properly and appropriately."

The FA did, however, say that: "Perhaps the most potentially significant document that we have not seen is any specific pre-match risk assessment carried out by Maidstone United's safety officer.

"Such an assessment is required by the Green Guide which states that a detailed risk assessment should be undertaken for each event before determining the final number, location and duties of all safety staff, including stewards."

In conclusion, the commission accepted that Maidstone United had no advance notice of the abusive language and took steps to stop the chanting, reacted promptly and responsibly and have taken steps to ensure it didn't happen again.

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Jeez! It’s getting very close to outlawing shouting that the referee is a blind, mincing, attention seeking handbag!
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SD; As an ex referee & assessor can I ask, have you noticed that 2 out of 3 throw-ins in this World Cup are & have been foul throws??
They are usually standing right by the Lino too but still get away with it, some of them are nigh on underarm ffs!!
Does it wind you up as much as it does me, & what can we do about it???
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M1 South wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:00 am SD; As an ex referee & assessor can I ask, have you noticed that 2 out of 3 throw-ins in this World Cup are & have been foul throws??
They are usually standing right by the Lino too but still get away with it, some of them are nigh on underarm ffs!!
Does it wind you up as much as it does me, & what can we do about it???
Don’t get me started! That and taking a few steps, pretending as though they’re taking the throw, then taking another few steps, repeat, and eventually they’ve gained 20yds! Then there’s the neatly concealed ‘one-armed’ throw. What can we do? Write to our MP? 😆
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I demand something is done!! Let’s go on hunger strike?
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After lunch though of course!!
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There’s always the People’s Front of Judea?
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Did the Dowse Bonner meet-up with the young fans take place and did anything come of it ?
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The club have kept very quiet about any developments so far!!
Was good to see a fair few of them in attendance at Webbedfeet on Boxing Day though!!
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I wish I knew someone on the inside to ask
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As this was such a positive move to arrange the meeting, surely to make public what was discussed/agreed would’ve in order 🤔
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Not 100% sure but I heard a rumour meeting was cancelled and is to be re-scheduled at a later date, perhaps someone can confirm this?

Will be interesting to see what happens if some young away fans turn up at PP for a game and are not allowed entry!!

As much as the behaviour of a few was getting out of hand i still think this should have been handled differently.
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