FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

Man of the Match

Poll ended at Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:00 pm

Joe Young
2
6%
Jordan Wynter
0
No votes
Connor Essam
0
No votes
Tom Bonner
9
25%
Maxwell Statham
1
3%
Keiran Murtagh
0
No votes
Samir Carruthers
0
No votes
Adam Lovatt
1
3%
Pierre Fonkeu
0
No votes
Luke Coulson
0
No votes
Charlie Sheringham
22
61%
Kristian Campbell (Sub)
0
No votes
Kwaku Frimpong (Sub)
1
3%
Davide Rodari (Sub)
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 36

Tony H
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Nin wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:49 pm
The Duke wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:53 am Dowse told me he never looks at Fans Forums as they are just " keyboard Warriors " and IF they have anything thing to say then say it to his face.
Before Facebook & Twitter exploded onto the scene, we had forums. There are far more keyboard warriors on social media platforms. I think the REAL fans still stay on forums. We are lucky to still have this one and it would be nice if tradition could be broken (although I'm sure it is anyway) and for the manager to come on here to have a discussion with us supporters. All very well having an open day, which is a one off. A section in this forum which can only be seen by registered users would be one way - although there are a few non Dartford supporters in here.

I'm sure I will be shot down, but it's just my opinion.
Forums have there place, but they can be very disrespectful places too. I once closed one down at a (now) step 3 club because comments on there became derogatory and even slanderous.

All I’d say is that, keep forums going for freedom of speech, and expression of opinion, sake. Anyone posting should think before clicking on that submit button. Sadly some don’t and think they can say what they like.That’s the same on all other social media platforms too!
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Thought it at the time but not even a foul so a red card is ridiculous. Has to be rescinded
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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I firmly believe that managers and players should NOT participate in the forum. Read it, fer sure, secretly even - but not post opinions. It’s asking for disaster for, maybe, the very reasons Tony H alluded too.

Surely the idea behind a fans’ forum is just that!? A place for fans to vent off, when appropriate (like now!) and to praise when it all goes good. Like it was a year ago. It’s ‘our’ place, not theirs. I’m sure most of them read this forum anyway - (it’s just simply human nature) and I’m sure they might even accept the collective constructive criticism in here. It’s all been fair and well-deserved.

“Face to face” with Dowse? Really? Where will the queue begin and end? It’s not far off!
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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From Westminster Hall to Southwark Park I reckon??
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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The 5th Searcher wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:03 am
Park Life wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:05 am With regards to the squad, 8 of the 14 players involved yesterday are Dowse's signings.
I think that most of the signings Dowse has made was done out of desperation and panic as well due to him coming in late and having to try and get a squad together.
I think he made a major cock up by not holding trials and getting more players along to have a look at rather than him going with older players that he knew.
He said he wanted to wait for the season to start and then the transfer window to see what players would be available that haven’t found a club or had been released but apart from the odd loan we’ve not really seen any new decent players come in.

I really don’t know how he’s going to turn this team around this season, I honestly don’t want to seem all doom & gloom and I really do want Dowse and the team to improve and succeed but the way things are going with the current crop of players we have I can’t see anything really improving.
It’s almost a case that Dowse and his back room team don’t have a clue how to sort it so it’s easier to finger point and blame players / positions than actually do anything about it.

Yesterday IMO Charlie Sheringham was easily head and shoulders above anyone else for MOTM and was the only one actually doing anything and trying.

Charlie was fantastic and so many players were too lazy, you could see that very clearly on the pitch. But to say no one else was trying is not right. Watch the effort the captain puts in, like he does every week. To suggest he wasn’t trying is an insult when regardless of his performance you can never say he’s given less than 100%.
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Keyboard worriers?

These are mainly people who go to the game , pay their money and have a qualified educated opinion on football and their teams they support.
Sometimes emotions run high but supporters can be emotionally attached to the club.
Sometimes, particularly after this tripe yet again, it will be negative and people may disagree. The description keyboard warrior is a cop out and a way to criticise because they don’t like the criticisms but only the fluffy stuff.
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Disappointed beyond belief and Dowse needs to stop these interviews !

He sounds like a newspaper reporter commenting as an independent voice. No, it’s his team !

Signing Sheringham and Wall was just so stupid…one of them maybe with a younger guy but the pair of them at 34 years old !

Not looking good !
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Charlie was very good , a good manager can still build a team around him
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Does our Number 3 have a problem. The players shook hands at the End and then he got the Beckenham Player in a Head-lock which then resulted into a malay with other players involved.
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Why do interviews if the only people who read them are keyboard warriors? I like a bit of banter , but nobody yet nobody can doubt the love and dedication likes of Parklife, spur , slightly, the duke etc have for this club. Opinions are like arseholes we all have one , but only a stupid person would not read just how his most loyal and dedicated followers feel. Those who used to watch and cringe at Marc whites interviews must be flabbergasted , these are far worse , to infer Tom and Conner are the problem is so ridiculous and pathetic , forums are for football fans and fun, those who run them should be praised, if dowse don’t read them u can be sure the board who are thousands of pounds out of pocket losing to a team most haven’t heard off infront of 600 odd will
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Lennylenny wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:39 pm Why do interviews if the only people who read them are keyboard warriors? I like a bit of banter , but nobody yet nobody can doubt the love and dedication likes of Parklife, spur , slightly, the duke etc have for this club. Opinions are like arseholes we all have one , but only a stupid person would not read just how his most loyal and dedicated followers feel. Those who used to watch and cringe at Marc whites interviews must be flabbergasted , these are far worse , to infer Tom and Conner are the problem is so ridiculous and pathetic , forums are for football fans and fun, those who run them should be praised, if dowse don’t read them u can be sure the board who are thousands of pounds out of pocket losing to a team most haven’t heard off infront of 600 odd will
Thousands of pounds out of pocket? Do you really believe that clubs budgets include for prize money in Cup Competitions? Absolutely not!
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Tony H wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:33 pm
Lennylenny wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:39 pm Why do interviews if the only people who read them are keyboard warriors? I like a bit of banter , but nobody yet nobody can doubt the love and dedication likes of Parklife, spur , slightly, the duke etc have for this club. Opinions are like arseholes we all have one , but only a stupid person would not read just how his most loyal and dedicated followers feel. Those who used to watch and cringe at Marc whites interviews must be flabbergasted , these are far worse , to infer Tom and Conner are the problem is so ridiculous and pathetic , forums are for football fans and fun, those who run them should be praised, if dowse don’t read them u can be sure the board who are thousands of pounds out of pocket losing to a team most haven’t heard off infront of 600 odd will
Thousands of pounds out of pocket? Do you really believe that clubs budgets include for prize money in Cup Competitions? Absolutely not!

I agree but don’t you think they know it’s potentially there and would be a great bonus to have. They know what’s on the table if we get through so it’s something they could hope for.
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Tony H wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:33 pm
Lennylenny wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:39 pm Why do interviews if the only people who read them are keyboard warriors? I like a bit of banter , but nobody yet nobody can doubt the love and dedication likes of Parklife, spur , slightly, the duke etc have for this club. Opinions are like arseholes we all have one , but only a stupid person would not read just how his most loyal and dedicated followers feel. Those who used to watch and cringe at Marc whites interviews must be flabbergasted , these are far worse , to infer Tom and Conner are the problem is so ridiculous and pathetic , forums are for football fans and fun, those who run them should be praised, if dowse don’t read them u can be sure the board who are thousands of pounds out of pocket losing to a team most haven’t heard off infront of 600 odd will
Thousands of pounds out of pocket? Do you really believe that clubs budgets include for prize money in Cup Competitions? Absolutely not!
You’re absolutely right but - to coin another Bullseye catchphrase, I’m sure LennyLenny was alluding to a, “let’s see what you could’ve won!” 😆
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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:D :D :D [/media] :?:
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Lennylenny wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:47 pm :D :D :D [/media] :?:
Lost me there pal!
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Sleightly Deceptive wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:29 pm
Tony H wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:33 pm
Lennylenny wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:39 pm Why do interviews if the only people who read them are keyboard warriors? I like a bit of banter , but nobody yet nobody can doubt the love and dedication likes of Parklife, spur , slightly, the duke etc have for this club. Opinions are like arseholes we all have one , but only a stupid person would not read just how his most loyal and dedicated followers feel. Those who used to watch and cringe at Marc whites interviews must be flabbergasted , these are far worse , to infer Tom and Conner are the problem is so ridiculous and pathetic , forums are for football fans and fun, those who run them should be praised, if dowse don’t read them u can be sure the board who are thousands of pounds out of pocket losing to a team most haven’t heard off infront of 600 odd will
Thousands of pounds out of pocket? Do you really believe that clubs budgets include for prize money in Cup Competitions? Absolutely not!
You’re absolutely right but - to coin another Bullseye catchphrase, I’m sure LennyLenny was alluding to a, “let’s see what you could’ve won!” 😆
Not another F*****g Speed Boat 🤣🤣
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Have just watched the highlights and also Dowse interview.

Yes. Two bad decisions from the ref with the handball and the sending off. I don't know whether the filming angles on the sending off were misleading, but it looked to me like Frinmong covered a greater distance to get to the ball, therefore moving at a higher speed compared to the Beckenham player and duly got to the ball first. Looked like a very clean winning of the ball! No high boot. A good tackle. Hope the red card is rescinded. But from then onwards, it was advantage Beckenham.

Credit to Beckenham for their performance, but that was to be expected, given their record to date this season.

I don't think Dowsie is blaming the back four specifically, but certainly blaming the teams 'defensive duties' and that includes the midfielders contribution to defensive play. Looking at recent previous highlights, we do not seem to have midfield players willing to win first balls going forward, or helping in defenders defend. Midfielders also seem slow to get back. Is it fitness? or complacency? We are certainly missing a Noble and Bradbrook type of player!!

Very disappointed with the result and another missed opportunity this season for an FA Cup run. As I am aware from previous conversations, the club do not depend on a cup run within the annual budget. However, a winning run would have generated additional funds which could have been put to good use in moving us forward.
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Post of the week there Pete!!
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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PeteSamson wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:09 am
I don't think Dowsie is blaming the back four specifically, but certainly blaming the teams 'defensive duties' and that includes the midfielders contribution to defensive play. Looking at recent previous highlights, we do not seem to have midfield players willing to win first balls going forward, or helping in defenders defend. Midfielders also seem slow to get back. Is it fitness? or complacency? We are certainly missing a Noble and Bradbrook type of player!!

Well said Pete, this part specifically is how I also interpreted the interview and also matches my own opinion of our main issue.

Take set pieces as an example as we have conceded so much from them this season. It isn't just down to the back 4, it's down to every single player in that box to pick up their man/area and deal with anything that comes their way, which we are simply not doing at the moment.

As I mentioned in my post match post it always looks to me as the defenders are stepping out and doing the work the midfielders should be doing which then leaves us exposed. We also seem to lose every 2nd ball in the midfield which was a problem last season too.
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Re: FA Cup 2nd round qualifying Dartford v Beckenham Town Sat 17 Sep 2022

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Woking fan here - I come in peace...

Given Dowson was our manager for a couple of years, I've kept an eye on how he's getting on since he moved to be your manager, and also your results.. as I've been to see us play @Dartford on a few occasions.

I've just watched the above interview and TBH I am in now way surprised... his willingness to completely throw under the bus his playing staff is frankly normal behaviour for him.. he did it on many occasions when he managed us... I found his whole approach in front of the camera completely unbearable and utterly un-professional. If you think I'm exaggerating go check out some of his interviews and "Friday catch ups" on Youtube - some of them were meandering rants, almost un-intelligible - in stark contrast from our new manager - Darren Sarll - Why, am I posting this? certainly not to gloat in anyway, but merely to set your expectations... this is him and I very very much suspect he is not for the changing... so brace yourself and good luck for the rest of the season
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