Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

Man of the Match

Poll ended at Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:53 pm

Joe Young
0
No votes
Maxwell Statham
2
6%
Kristian Campbell
25
74%
Samir Carruthers
0
No votes
Connor Essam
0
No votes
Tom Bonner
1
3%
Luke Coulson
2
6%
Luke Allen
1
3%
Alex Wall
0
No votes
Adam Lovatt
0
No votes
Pierre Fonkeu
2
6%
Sam Odaudu (Sub)
0
No votes
Dan Roberts (Sub)
1
3%
Keiran Murtagh (Sub)
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 34

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The Duke
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

Post by The Duke »

Certainly NOT the worst game I have seen Dartford play , Sudbury and Needham Market under the Messiah [King] were real bottle jobs !!!!!
Worthing played all the football today but thankfully couldnt finish as well as 3 great last minute blocks by our guys but poor defending and lack of goals cost us today !!!!
Of course I am disappointed and I want Dowse to take positive , quick action as clearly a number of the squad are just NOT good enough , IF he does that he has my backing , IF he dithers then I will be less than impressed

Only 2 players come out with any credit today Kristien Campbell who at least showed some very good touches and Pierre Fonkeu who worked
his b.ls of , as for the rest ????????????
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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DA Mikey wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:00 pm Wish list for tomorrow:

• 3 points
• Three different goal scorers
• Small bar queue
• Attendance >1000
• Ebbsfleet lose

I’ve been good all week.
Small bar queue appreciated, but hardly Meatloaf status.
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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We started the game well playing with a quick tempo and deservedly took the lead. Had a good opportunity to go two up but unfortunately didn't take that chance and after about 15 minutes we seemed to sit back and in all honesty never really troubled Worthing again. In the second half if they had a bit more self belief and didn't resort to a bit of play acting i thought they could have won the game more comfortably. Another very disappointing performance from us.

It's all got a bit of a mess at the moment on and off the pitch and if I'm honest I've thought since pre-season the squad was light on numbers, quality and pace so this comes as absolutely no surprise to me. Anyone who didn't see this coming imo must have had their head in the sand and the views expressed on the forum were also bound to happen because of the situation with the sacking of Kingy. This split the club and will take a long time to heal.

I do feel though that there are some in the club who have led Dowse along a bit and i have a lot of sympathy for him. You only have to listen to his interviews to see people had been feeding him stuff which THEY thought was important but unfortunately i would argue the vast majority didn't, this has inevitably added to the disharmony.

Having said that whilst we have a core of very good players, it was and is Dowse's responsibility to get the squad right. So if i was him i would take a step back, not listen or be influenced by anybody for a while, certainly not share any info on potential signings until they've actually signed and get on with the job his way. I'm sure he will be trying his hardest to put things right and i'm sure the club will back him all the way as will the vast majority of supporters.

See you at Hemel.

COYD
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

Post by tommytollbooth »

Very disappointing to say the least, Worthing played some decent football without hurting us but they got the points . I was surprised when we resigned Wall and Sheringham, Charlies injured again and Wall would make a good bouncer at a nightclub but little else. Play Pierre at centre forward and use his pace. Just out of interest who are the 3 "old boys" on the Dartford bench assisting Dowse and his young sidekick. We only need Corporal Jones waving his bayonet and shouting " They don't like it up em " and it would be an enjoyable episode of Dads Army. Just joking!
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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First 20 we were decent. Playing balls behind their defence through the gaps, brilliant and creative.
Then it got to a point where any patterns we were trying to play disappeared, our players would have the ball at their feet and I couldn’t see where they were trying to go or what the game plan was. There was definitely some long balls in there quite a few times, I hope we don’t go back to that.
This is not the worst game I’ve seen us play but it was bloody awful and a very hard watch. I convinced my other half to come who doesn’t normally (though she’s been a few times over the years ) and I wish I didn’t.

There is no way I am going to criticise dowse it’early days and he of course needs time but at this moment it is awfully poor and I really want to see improvements as we go. There are a few players not good enough or appear to not care and he needs to address it.

The club wanted a change and explained why what is fair enough but we must see better on the pitch in performance and progression because for me even this early it’s concerning
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

Post by Babylon »

Very disappointing end to the game but we have a chance to get back to winning ways at HH on Monday.
Leaving the ground yesterday ,I have not seen so much frustration from a lot of our fans for a long time.
Imho far too many of our players just didn't turn up for the.2nd half .
Still 40 or so games to so no need to panic.


Good post by Park life by the way
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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As others have said the first 15 - 20 minutes we was on top and played some nice football but then we sat back and let Worthing back in. Worthing looked a reasonably good side and without all of that shithousary and falling over at every opportunity they could be a good team that will give others a hiding but they started to act like a tin pot club which is wrong but in the end they deserved their victory because they never gave up unlike us.

I’m not even going to mention the ref as he was a total waste of space and a joke to the FA.

Apart from 3 or 4 excellent very timely tackles I thought our defending was quite poor especially for Worthings equaliser where their player managed to bring the ball down with his back to goal turn and get his shot off and score.

Kristian Campbell was easily the MOTM by a country mile, Pierre tried hard and for me at times Curruthers was trying and won some good tackles but apart from that the rest let Dowse and the fans down along with themselves.

I’m sorry to say that there are at least 4 or 5 players at present that are either no where near good enough or just can’t be arsed and are only here for the pay packet and need to go and some are what I would call senior players.
As Parklife mentioned pre season we looked very light on players and although he was late into the game when he took over I’m afraid Dowse has made some bad choices in his signings and I think some have been made out of desperation and panic because time was running out. I only hope that he can bring in some better players and soon before the damage and rot really sets in and we end up with even bigger problems.
We seriously need at least 1 new striker because we will struggle for goals otherwise. Wall just won’t get them and he can’t be arsed to run & jump, Pierre is trying but for me he’s not a winger he should be playing through the middle more with regular service. Sheringham is still out injured with no mention as to how long for then he has to get match fit. Rodari looks dangerous when he plays so hopefully he can score some more just hope he’s not out for long and so far from what I’ve seen of Dan Roberts I really can’t see him producing much at all, I really hope I’m wrong but he just doesn’t seem to create anything and turns back instead of taking players on.

The new guy in midfield on loan from Sutton looked quite a good player in the 1st half but seemed to disappear a bit 2nd half before being taken off for Oduado which to me seemed a very strange move unless he was injured.

I really hope that we can come out all guns blazing at Hemel on Monday and every player gives 110% because nothing less will be acceptable. Hemel got stuffed 4-0 away to Dover yesterday so they will also be looking to make amends.
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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Unfortunately we let some of our best players go and replaced them with players who don't seem to really care or have any passion for the club , there was more passion watching in the stands than on the pitch , ryan would have got an assist yesterday if he was subbed on for the last 30 mins , Coulson and Wall should be running the show for us. We would be better off getting rid of players and playing young players than playing people who show no effort.
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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We actually sent in a good corner and scored we had a very good free kick which hit the crossbar and Luke Allen missed another sitter and I missed the winning goal otherwise nothing much else to remember.
Oh yes Wall finally proved that my expectations for him to battle and score goals just like when we first signed him a few seasons ago were proven to be totally wrong as he fell down inside and outside the penalty area couldn't jump for the ball couldn't win tackles and just spent most of his time having verbal with the referee.
Several players showing little or no real interest and the manager has his work cut out to get a side together that is prepared to work hard for 90 minutes and any injury/extra time :o so I am hoping to see some new signings and some departures during the next few games
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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Now I have got over the disappointment a bit , here is the goal .. cant let you guys down like some of the players did

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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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I think you're being a bit harsh on some of the others Duke. For me, Carruthers again was outstanding but did fall into the trap of seeming to not know what to do second half. The long ball out by Worthing and two players converging on Samir, for him to control the ball first time and leave the pair of them for dead was sublime.
If Allen and Coulson had taken their chances when clean through on goal we would have been out of sight. 3-0 up early second half with Worthing playing pretty football and creating no goal chances for all of it. I think we are all being unfair. Yes, we faded from the game and paid for it.
Yes, we missed Rodari and to some extent Wykes, no offence to Joe. The defence was all at sea on both goals and this is where we need fresh blood in my opinion.
I agree on Alex, he showed some nice touches but he's not even a 45 minute man. I did question a few signings at the start of the summer and that's as far as I'll go with that.
As said it was a revelation for a lot to see Kristian playing as he did second half. :o
Let's hope for a result at HH tomorrow.
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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Those questioning the commitment and passion of Steve Irving, Dave Skinner and Tony Burman are obviously new to the club and have no idea just how much those three individuals have put into the club. First off ensuring that it rose like a phoenix from the ashes, keeping us going through hard times and gradually building to the club we are today. The reasons that SK was sacked are widely known and all around the fact that he wanted the club to change its ethos from a supporter owned club. If that ever happens then DFC will be in danger of going out of existence once again - look what happened to Greenwich Borough, who ground-shared at PP, as soon as their money man sadly passed away suddenly. That club no longer exists. Heaven forbid that people like Steve, Dave and Tony ever decide that enough is enough and walk away.

As to the latest performances - I saw the game at Taunton and for an hour we looked fairly comfortable. Bear in mind though that Taunton have only conceded one goal at most in a game. The opening day at Bath saw a good 2-0 win - and that is the only game Bath have lost........
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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All this crap about the directors etc doesn’t hide we’re abysmal on the pitch. All this lucky we have a club drivel attitude is just excuses for failure. Someone has even mentioned Ryan , what a load of garbage.
There are splits in the fans opinions on here, those who want to see the first team perform well consistently and those that are happy with conference south mediocrity.
All this hail TB , Mr Irvine etc etc need to move on.
We all know they do a great job running the club and deserve all the credit they get but a lot of this praise his trying to make excuses for the crap on the pitch by the management and coaching team they have brought in. And on the pitch is tripe right now.

I have no issue with Dowse I will back him it is early but some of the rubbish were producing must be questioned.

Some have no ambition and are just happy with the constant bore of lucky we have a club etc.
yes we know but move on for gods sake
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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I am a Kingy supporter and been supporting this club for 45 years so will always want was best for the club and I feel I am allowed to air them views on here. I do not have any inside knowledge of the club as to the exact reasons for his sacking only what the club put out which to be honest was not much so I only see we sacked a successful manager and now we are no where near the team we were, but I don’t feel criticism of Steve Irving Dave Skinner or Tony Burman is right either. I agree with Park Life the sacking of Kingy has caused a split in the supporters of the club and I see Welling got a crowd of just over 900 yesterday so maybe some have moved there to watch football.

I will support Dowse all the time he is manager of this club but does not mean he is exempt from criticism and I feel he has got some players that are just not up to it Wall is not interested not sure why Wynter was on the bench yesterday and I assume Wilks is injured, to say the squad is too small is a understatement and feel we need to show the door and get others that care in the door but I think it’s to late to bring in any players of note in, not sure if Dowse has the contacts his predecessor had.

One thing that really gets to me is the quote we have our club back not sure what was really meant by that but I’m a season ticket holder I go to as many away matches as I possibly can, I brought shares in the share scheme and buy tickets for 50/50 etc, ok I do not volunteer on match days but does it make less of being my club and I never thought I had lost the club just feel we are not the footballing team we were,

Sadly I feel if we need to progress as a club into the league above and beyond we need outside investment and that is not the way the club is set up so again sadly I think we are at our level now
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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I may have been watching a different game but I thought we generally played well and I was particularly pleased with the contributions of Campbell , statham, Samir and Lovatt
We missed davide then putting Pierre out wide ( wing back I believe) was a waste of time. These two make a decent strike force
No point in calling out wall he missed pre season and is rusty , he needs a slow intro until he is up to speed
We were doing fine until wall leaned on the 18 ( fairly) he rolled around and wall got booked then the 6 did the same to get us another yellow
From that point we should have copied their tactics to see out the game for a point. They did a job on us and their manager is proud of his cheating
The fact is our squad may not be good enough , our manager may not be good enough and our board may not be good enough but they all deserve a chance to see what they can do
The reality is whatever we do we will finish below ebbsfleet and H&M and probably Dover so the best we can hope for is top 7
There is no reason why we can’t finish top 7 with one or two decent additions so we need to keep level heads
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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If this is the shit that is to pervade these, otherwise, excellent pages, then I’m out! C’mon admins - get rid of the jerks!
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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Worthing started to play like a full Hungerford side towards the end of the game and I for one could see no reason for it. They had us encamped in our half and clueless as to what to do, hanging on for dear life???? Why resort to those tactic's?
Add to that, I've never seen a keeper involved so much in a game and any team with a bit of savvy would suss them out long before half time.
As for the idiots who, after years of pent up frustration at us being the better team than theirs, Why? for Christ's sake, do we have the odd herbert rising to the bait?
We know who they are. IGNORE THEM.
F**K me. It's not rocket science.
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

Post by Trevor B »

Babylon said
I made it 2 shots at goal in the 2nd half for us.
One hit the crossbar and the other effort was a shot that I could have saved.

There is a long way to go but our capitulation today was very concerning.
Barry you also said to me at half time "We will be lucky to get anything out of this game"
You were certainly proved right :(
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Re: Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

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I can’t believe that after watching the highlites we actually had 3 defenders surrounding the Worthing goalscorer for their 1st goal and we still allowed him to turn and shoot into the bottom corner with his back to goal 😳😳.
Absolutely crazy defending.
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