Dartford v Worthing Sat 27 Aug 2022

[ozymandias]

First off, I'm worried. If Spike, who I normally think puts a fair post in, ends with 'I'm worried' Then I'm worried.
Second off, What was Wykes out for, injury? Because I certainly hope he was. No offence to Joe, who, lets face it, only touched the ball twice and that was to take it out of our net.
Worthing played a lot of pretty football around the park but weren't exactly getting anywhere (apart from the goals) and let's face it, it's those that count.
But we were forever chasing the ball to no avail. We hadn't a clue. Yet we have some classy players in the squad.
Why Worthing had to resort to the last twenty minutes is beyond me, they didn't need to do it. And yes, the referee lost it at that point.
The booking of Pierre and Samir was laughable.
The revalation that is Kristian on the right, excellent. More please Mr Dowse.
I am beginning to worry that Dowse is a Woking manager without the money. More like a Kingstonian manager.
But let's face it, we were undone by an average side.
very easy to go for Kristian today because he played very well second half. But it's a ninety minute game.
I'm giving my MOTM to Pierre because he tried for ninety minutes to close them down and try and create chances for er....somebody. Alas, he was on his own there.

[Wookie]

Well the theory of lets see where we are after 10 games or so has gone out of the window. Sick of hearing about our ex manager to be honest, do we keep going on about the burman days?! no so let's move on, and remember it's a vastly changed squad and management team. I know we all care about the club otherwise we wouldn't be posting on hear, but let's get behind the team. Worst performance ever has been quoted, really?! get real. Perhaps expectations need to be rained in by a few over the cookoo's nest, I do agree there are a few players lacking effort which is unforgivable, but let douse and team have a bit of time.

Yes we did, all the flaming time last season -‘burman wouldn’t have used this many players’, ‘burman would have a small squad’ etc.

You mentioned that your sick of hearing about our ex manager, well I’m sick of hearing that things need to be done ‘the burman way’ and ‘the dartford way’.

Expectations need to be rained in? What do expect when a manager is sacked after finishing in the playoffs 3 seasons in a row. Burman, Irving and Skinner are taking the club backwards - but it’s ok as we can all enjoy a pint afterwards

And failing in 2 playoffs.

So what’s your expectation? Mid table or worse? burman also failed in a playoff after finishing 2nd on goal difference and also getting relegated 2 seasons in a row but didn’t get the sack

The only expectation with the circus upstairs is that we can enjoy a jolly good drink after the game - might as well play in the local Sunday pub league

[BRASSNECK]

Yes we did, all the flaming time last season -‘burman wouldn’t have used this many players’, ‘burman would have a small squad’ etc.

You mentioned that your sick of hearing about our ex manager, well I’m sick of hearing that things need to be done ‘the burman way’ and ‘the dartford way’.

Expectations need to be rained in? What do expect when a manager is sacked after finishing in the playoffs 3 seasons in a row. Burman, Irving and Skinner are taking the club backwards - but it’s ok as we can all enjoy a pint afterwards

And failing in 2 playoffs.

So what’s your expectation? Mid table or worse? burman also failed in a playoff after finishing 2nd on goal difference and also getting relegated 2 seasons in a row but didn’t get the sack

The only expectation with the circus upstairs is that we can enjoy a jolly good drink after the game - might as well play in the local Sunday pub league

You sound like one of Hurleys fan boys.

[Wookie]

And failing in 2 playoffs.

So what’s your expectation? Mid table or worse? burman also failed in a playoff after finishing 2nd on goal difference and also getting relegated 2 seasons in a row but didn’t get the sack

The only expectation with the circus upstairs is that we can enjoy a jolly good drink after the game - might as well play in the local Sunday pub league

You sound like one of Hurleys fan boys.

Not at all. I’m entitled to have my opinion as much as anyone. Personally you and some others on here need to climb out of Irving’s backside. It’s hard to tell where he ends and you start.

[BRASSNECK]

So what’s your expectation? Mid table or worse? burman also failed in a playoff after finishing 2nd on goal difference and also getting relegated 2 seasons in a row but didn’t get the sack

The only expectation with the circus upstairs is that we can enjoy a jolly good drink after the game - might as well play in the local Sunday pub league

You sound like one of Hurleys fan boys.

Not at all. I’m entitled to have my opinion as much as anyone. Personally you and some others on here need to climb out of Irving’s backside. It’s hard to tell where he ends and you start.

Getting rid of king was the best thing the club did .

[Wookie]

You sound like one of Hurleys fan boys.

Not at all. I’m entitled to have my opinion as much as anyone. Personally you and some others on here need to climb out of Irving’s backside. It’s hard to tell where he ends and you start.

Getting rid of king was the best thing the club did .

Yeah it really looks like it. Take one look at how much the attendances have dropped.

Don’t worry, you won’t have to wait much longer to get a pint. There will be just you, a few others and a dog watching soon enough

[Mark Sweet]

Not at all. I’m entitled to have my opinion as much as anyone. Personally you and some others on here need to climb out of Irving’s backside. It’s hard to tell where he ends and you start.

Getting rid of king was the best thing the club did .

Yeah it really looks like it. Take one look at how much the attendances have dropped.

Don’t worry, you won’t have to wait much longer to get a pint. There will be just you, a few others and a dog watching soon enough

Your posts are very strange. Seems like you have a personal grudge with the club for some reason and looking for a reason to post on here!

[Tall Dart]

When I said expectations should be rained in, I meant for us to expect to just pick up where we left off was perhaps naive. Time should have taught us that any team in this league can beat another if you play like we did 2and half, but that can be fixed, cant it?!. I wasnt present for the Havant game, but from what I read and heard we didnt do too badly and could have won. We have now lost two on the bounce, both after taking the lead, so no need to throw in the towel just yet, stay calm. We have seen many a team go on a decent run later on, and come back into contention for playoffs. Sorry but dont see us winning outright this year, and dont think it should have been anyone else's expectation after the short time douse has had in charge. Personally the introduction of academy players has excited me that the club are trying to work from within, which I think is the best model for us financially and to create that club ethic.

I suppose that's Rose tinters firmly on for me? but I support Dartford, and if we dont reach the playoffs I will be here next year regardless, I thought that's what supports do, regardless of the current management or future ones COYDs.

Think crouds will pick up but 900 odd ain't bad for holiday season, dont think there is a mass abstaining that is being suggested, but time will tell. I remember the 300 we used to get when we reforrmed, many of whom I still see there today, which is another reason I support the club.

Fingers crossed for a better performance next game.

[Top Cat]

The first 15-20 minutes we were on top and got a deserved lead . At this point it looked like the team were getting the reaction that Douse was demanding especially after last week’s disappointing performance ,and if Luke hadn’t missed what was another golden opportunity to make it 2-0 the game may of had a different outcome ? I don’t think Worthing were an average team at all , they outplayed us for most of the second half , they were first to nearly every 50-50 ball and their passing was accurate and not wasted , and they had us chasing shadows and limiting us to one shot on goal from a free kick ,and kept on to the end and thoroughly deserved the three points in the end .
We do look like team that are destined for mid table mediocrity? But we have to keep the faith .I’m sure Douse will turn it around ? But whatever happens true supporters will always follow their club through thick and thin and not jump on the first bus to the neighbours because the beer is served quicker .

[Kebabus]

Very disappointed that we lost again, but the forum is being hijackedagain, a bit of negative bullshit again.
2 contributers need to do one and move in with Kingy wherever he is, he's gone and history. The club will be just fine, it's obviously a rebuild.
At times like this the Dartford loyal stick together.

[The Duke]

Certainly NOT the worst game I have seen Dartford play , Sudbury and Needham Market under the Messiah [King] were real bottle jobs !!!!!
Worthing played all the football today but thankfully couldnt finish as well as 3 great last minute blocks by our guys but poor defending and lack of goals cost us today !!!!
Of course I am disappointed and I want Dowse to take positive , quick action as clearly a number of the squad are just NOT good enough , IF he does that he has my backing , IF he dithers then I will be less than impressed

Only 2 players come out with any credit today Kristien Campbell who at least showed some very good touches and Pierre Fonkeu who worked
his b.ls of , as for the rest ????????????

[DA Mikey]

Wish list for tomorrow:

• 3 points
• Three different goal scorers
• Small bar queue
• Attendance >1000
• Ebbsfleet lose

I’ve been good all week.

Small bar queue appreciated, but hardly Meatloaf status.

[Park Life]

We started the game well playing with a quick tempo and deservedly took the lead. Had a good opportunity to go two up but unfortunately didn't take that chance and after about 15 minutes we seemed to sit back and in all honesty never really troubled Worthing again. In the second half if they had a bit more self belief and didn't resort to a bit of play acting i thought they could have won the game more comfortably. Another very disappointing performance from us.

It's all got a bit of a mess at the moment on and off the pitch and if I'm honest I've thought since pre-season the squad was light on numbers, quality and pace so this comes as absolutely no surprise to me. Anyone who didn't see this coming imo must have had their head in the sand and the views expressed on the forum were also bound to happen because of the situation with the sacking of Kingy. This split the club and will take a long time to heal.

I do feel though that there are some in the club who have led Dowse along a bit and i have a lot of sympathy for him. You only have to listen to his interviews to see people had been feeding him stuff which THEY thought was important but unfortunately i would argue the vast majority didn't, this has inevitably added to the disharmony.

Having said that whilst we have a core of very good players, it was and is Dowse's responsibility to get the squad right. So if i was him i would take a step back, not listen or be influenced by anybody for a while, certainly not share any info on potential signings until they've actually signed and get on with the job his way. I'm sure he will be trying his hardest to put things right and i'm sure the club will back him all the way as will the vast majority of supporters.

See you at Hemel.

COYD

[tommytollbooth]

Very disappointing to say the least, Worthing played some decent football without hurting us but they got the points . I was surprised when we resigned Wall and Sheringham, Charlies injured again and Wall would make a good bouncer at a nightclub but little else. Play Pierre at centre forward and use his pace. Just out of interest who are the 3 "old boys" on the Dartford bench assisting Dowse and his young sidekick. We only need Corporal Jones waving his bayonet and shouting " They don't like it up em " and it would be an enjoyable episode of Dads Army. Just joking!

[KentC.]

First 20 we were decent. Playing balls behind their defence through the gaps, brilliant and creative.
Then it got to a point where any patterns we were trying to play disappeared, our players would have the ball at their feet and I couldn’t see where they were trying to go or what the game plan was. There was definitely some long balls in there quite a few times, I hope we don’t go back to that.
This is not the worst game I’ve seen us play but it was bloody awful and a very hard watch. I convinced my other half to come who doesn’t normally (though she’s been a few times over the years ) and I wish I didn’t.

There is no way I am going to criticise dowse it’early days and he of course needs time but at this moment it is awfully poor and I really want to see improvements as we go. There are a few players not good enough or appear to not care and he needs to address it.

The club wanted a change and explained why what is fair enough but we must see better on the pitch in performance and progression because for me even this early it’s concerning

[Babylon]

Very disappointing end to the game but we have a chance to get back to winning ways at HH on Monday.
Leaving the ground yesterday ,I have not seen so much frustration from a lot of our fans for a long time.
Imho far too many of our players just didn't turn up for the.2nd half .
Still 40 or so games to so no need to panic.


Good post by Park life by the way

[The 5th Searcher]

As others have said the first 15 - 20 minutes we was on top and played some nice football but then we sat back and let Worthing back in. Worthing looked a reasonably good side and without all of that shithousary and falling over at every opportunity they could be a good team that will give others a hiding but they started to act like a tin pot club which is wrong but in the end they deserved their victory because they never gave up unlike us.

I’m not even going to mention the ref as he was a total waste of space and a joke to the FA.

Apart from 3 or 4 excellent very timely tackles I thought our defending was quite poor especially for Worthings equaliser where their player managed to bring the ball down with his back to goal turn and get his shot off and score.

Kristian Campbell was easily the MOTM by a country mile, Pierre tried hard and for me at times Curruthers was trying and won some good tackles but apart from that the rest let Dowse and the fans down along with themselves.

I’m sorry to say that there are at least 4 or 5 players at present that are either no where near good enough or just can’t be arsed and are only here for the pay packet and need to go and some are what I would call senior players.
As Parklife mentioned pre season we looked very light on players and although he was late into the game when he took over I’m afraid Dowse has made some bad choices in his signings and I think some have been made out of desperation and panic because time was running out. I only hope that he can bring in some better players and soon before the damage and rot really sets in and we end up with even bigger problems.
We seriously need at least 1 new striker because we will struggle for goals otherwise. Wall just won’t get them and he can’t be arsed to run & jump, Pierre is trying but for me he’s not a winger he should be playing through the middle more with regular service. Sheringham is still out injured with no mention as to how long for then he has to get match fit. Rodari looks dangerous when he plays so hopefully he can score some more just hope he’s not out for long and so far from what I’ve seen of Dan Roberts I really can’t see him producing much at all, I really hope I’m wrong but he just doesn’t seem to create anything and turns back instead of taking players on.

The new guy in midfield on loan from Sutton looked quite a good player in the 1st half but seemed to disappear a bit 2nd half before being taken off for Oduado which to me seemed a very strange move unless he was injured.

I really hope that we can come out all guns blazing at Hemel on Monday and every player gives 110% because nothing less will be acceptable. Hemel got stuffed 4-0 away to Dover yesterday so they will also be looking to make amends.

[dartfordknight]

Unfortunately we let some of our best players go and replaced them with players who don't seem to really care or have any passion for the club , there was more passion watching in the stands than on the pitch , ryan would have got an assist yesterday if he was subbed on for the last 30 mins , Coulson and Wall should be running the show for us. We would be better off getting rid of players and playing young players than playing people who show no effort.

[Trevor B]

We actually sent in a good corner and scored we had a very good free kick which hit the crossbar and Luke Allen missed another sitter and I missed the winning goal otherwise nothing much else to remember.
Oh yes Wall finally proved that my expectations for him to battle and score goals just like when we first signed him a few seasons ago were proven to be totally wrong as he fell down inside and outside the penalty area couldn't jump for the ball couldn't win tackles and just spent most of his time having verbal with the referee.
Several players showing little or no real interest and the manager has his work cut out to get a side together that is prepared to work hard for 90 minutes and any injury/extra time so I am hoping to see some new signings and some departures during the next few games

[KSTDART]

Now I have got over the disappointment a bit , here is the goal .. cant let you guys down like some of the players did

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